"No one can read the New Testament of our Bible without recognizing that Jesus had a lot more to say about how we treat the poor than most of the issues that were talked about in this election."
Win debates? The problem with this thinking is that if you are going to use the Bible as a source of your arguments to "win" debates, as if you are a Bible-believing person, then you will also have to recognize the sanctity of innocent life (i.e. "pro-life"), traditional marriage between a man and woman (since the Bible mention repeatedly throughout in the form of "begat so and so" who "begat so and so"...ad nauseum. Kind of hard to show the history of generations of "begats" between gay couples in a Bible. The Bible sets a precedence on the whole "begatness" thing when it comes to between a man and woman), and charity in the Bible. Also, the most important thing for Bible-believers is the belief in Jesus Christ and not about how Jesus Christ performed "community service" as Hillary tried to explain being the most important aspect of Christian believers:
"No one can read the New Testament of our Bible without recognizing that Jesus had a lot more to say about how we treat the poor than most of the issues that were talked about in this election.'"
Many of the Republicans believe in the Bible and Jesus Christ, or simply religious and believe in family values. Many. Not Everybody in the case of Republicans having a "monopoly" on religion and values. Better take a hard look at "Reverend" Al Sharpton and "Reverend" Jesse Jackson when it comes to their religion and values, though it hasn't worked for them yet.
As for "charity" didn't President Bush set up the Faith Based and Community Initiative a few years back? Where efforts on the following populations are focused on:
Those with HIV/AIDS
I think Hillary Clinton is a wee bit late to talk about charity and helping the poor. When President Bush had already set up a Welfare to Work program to help welfare recipents and low income members of society get into stable and expanding jobs and become independent and productive members of society. The whole premise of charity is about giving these people a chance to become independent productive members. Just like the old Chinese proverb:
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
What is readily apparent is that Hillary Clinton got "religion in her blood" in preparation for the 2008 presidential election. A big blow to those Democratic "special interest" people who wouldn't touch a Bible if their life depended on it. Another blow is knowing the fact that Bill Clinton support the ban on local gay marriage. And he'll be helping his Hillary. Wonderful! Now you have Hillary Clinton who got "religion" her political blue blood and her husband who got the other "religion" in his blood on the belief and support for the ban on local gay marriage.
If certain "special interest" people keep picking a Democratic presidential candidate despite his or her specialized religious issues ("got religion') then some of them are certainly going to get themselves screwed over and over again, just as Democrats have done so again and again toward non-whites throughout history. But they keep voting Democrats. Don't these people see abuse toward them when it happens?
As for the vote on the ban on gay marriage (but not Civil Union) in Oregon which got 57% of the votes in a state where Kerry won 51.5% of the vote kind of tells you that the votes were mostly about "values" rather than just religious values. This certainly dispels the notion that Kerry lost the election because of those religious right wing nut jobs. Or even the evil Karl Rove who planned all this to get Oregon people to vote for the ban on gay marriage. Y'all might want to rethink your excuses of why the John Kerry lost the race.
Kerry sucked. Bill Clinton got sucked. Hillary Clinton got sucker punched. Do you want to be a sucker, too?
Might as well go the way of the Libertarian Party from now on. Only thing is, you might have to wait awhile until something happens with this party. Until then, you guys are seriously, seriously screwed if you keep picking the same Democrat party for the all the wrong reasons.