Sunday, October 03, 2010

Mystery vlog at ASLrocks

I was looking for a specific video during one of my research that led me to ASLrocks.net and noticed one vlog and the ensuing comments afterwards discussing about a mystery vlog "Trust your leaders about AB 2072? " that somehow showed up on ASLrocks.net. It appears to have been perpetrated by an imposter or imposters because no screen name appeared with that video. Despite Seesmic video beeing down at the time people were reponding by typing in their comments. And if you missed seeing that missing vlog here's a Google cache of that mystery vlog on ASLnet.rocks.

Now, it's not the mystery vlog that caught my eye but the comments elsewhere in other vlogs about the author of the vlog "Trust your leaders about AB 2072?".  I can't say I'm surprised by some of the vitriol but that site certainly has a feel of "members only club mentality" where you are judged by your opinions (e.g. on avdism, "deafhood," Deaf culture, etc) rather than embracing a more open and honest forum discussion for anyone who signs or even talk with captioning (i.e in the main YouTube video and not in Seesmic) on just about anything. This has become a "closed forum discussion" based on an ideology and control versus an "open forum discussion" based more on greater freedom of expression and speech, and inclusiveness. Sounds very familiar doesn't it?

But remember,  no freedom of speech is being violated because it's a privilege to be on a discussion forum rather than a right. The owners can do whatever they want with their website on hosting a forum discussion.

Back to the ensuing comments I noticed in two different vlogs in ASLrocks about the author of the video "Trust your leaders about AB 2072?".  The hate was palpable in several comments rather than to simply agree to disagree. That environment has an air of "if you disagree with us then you are not welcomed here" sort of thing. Not everybody, mind you. Just those that I noticed and a general feeling overall when the two forums are compared.

People do have their reasons and preferences on choosing which video forum they prefer to watch and/or participate in and I respect that. That is their choices. No one is twisting anybody's arm to become a member of either ASLrocks or DVTV video discussion forum. Although with peer pressure it can be a form of arm twisting in this case, especially if people think you are a "traitor" for being a member of one discussion forum and try the guilt method to change your mind. Whatever. But, boy, that "open society" looks better and better every day.

7 comments:

theHolism said...

That much, I witnessed with my own eyes. Funny because I do not visit aslrocks.net and never thought somebody would go to the trouble of posting my vlog there. Somebody told me that my vlog made it there and I didn't believe him so I took a peek and there it was! The user name was theholism. I went in and saw that it was only posted very recently and yet it had over 930 hits already. That number count sent shockwave throughout the site. People complained about the traffic that the vlog was getting under aslrocks.net. That in itself made them really angry. I observed the comment thread under it and saw deafchip calling it a form of avdism and declared it to be a violation of their rule. Avdism? According to who? Them. A closed society at its' best.

I had a good chuckle over it and chuckled once more when the moderator of ASLrocks.net realized that it was the work of an imposter.

Whoever did it sure exposed them as the fool for everybody to see. I'd like to thank this imposter, whoever it might be.

lavender16 said...

theHolism, This was an interesting moment when imposter posted your vlogs at Aslrocks.net and watch how commenters of Aslrocks.net reacted in a violently matter. I could not believe my own eyes even I have glass.
That proved , they are closed society. After I saw deafchip's comment. Oh man, I put Aslrocks.net on website block view on Google and Internet Explore 7 feature immediately.
lavender16 known as bgmaron8 from DVTV

Anonymous said...

I remembered the last time someone made and posted the vlog telling anyone that ASLrocks.net disclosed the IP addresses via email/inbox (?). That is how the person received a threatening letter from someone else.

I was shocked to see that vlog. I gratefully did not register the login at ASLrocks.net!

Yes, ASLrocks.net sure have the problem with those imposters, the owner ought to fix and stop them. I don't know why the owner did not check out those imposters thru the registrations. I think the owner needs to get a new aggregator.

The DVTV owner Tayler did a great job preventing those imposters from his website. He knows what-to-do. I applaud him for that!

White Ghost

Anonymous said...

What they did isn't safe to be on their site.

Russell

Anonymous said...

White Ghost,

Of course, Tayler and five editors know your IP address, you silly!

Type www.deafread.com/email
Then your jaw will drop to the floor to see your IP addy and your location right there on the top of the editors' names. You use a false name White Ghost, but Tayler and six editors LAUGH at you. So DeafRead is no better. Capsice?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @ 6:56 PM,

At this point, they did NOT diclose our IP addresses via email/inbox. I guess the owner of ASLrocks.net did not fix to cover the IP addresses to the public in the email/inbox UNTIL someone posted it. All of sudden, he already recognized and fixed it. So, I don't think he has common sense to use the proofreading. Sorry to say it.....

White Ghost

Mike said...

Plus, the attitude of the owner is much left to be desired. Simply confrontational in a bad way.