I would like to pick PSE, but this particular poll does not allow me to pick others at the same time. Therefore, I, normally, use transliteration and PSE in my working environment. However, in casual converstation with the Deaf/deaf/CI/HOH, I would use between PSE/ASL. I, also, speak in English and Spanish. That makes it even worse. I am not help in this poll at this point. Thanks, anyways.
Mike, no offense here why are you talking with your mouth not your hand on your youtube? It sound like you are trying to say speaking is supreme than any lanuage and yet you are deaf! your point to DonG is worthless because you speaking not signing and i find this really low class from you thanks sorry if you feel im insulting you that is not what i am trying to do here.
I prefer signing in SEE because I think in structured English. Sarcasm, jokes, etc. is better conveyed in SEE than ASL. Slapstick comedies... not my cup of tea.
It's about not being ashamed on the modality you use to communicate. Just as there is no shame to admit that you use PSE all the time. I use my voice as a hard of hearing person since I am quite comfortable with it and not ashamed to speak. No message was lost since I included captions for those who cannot hear or understand.
Get used to it. And visit DVTV where I responded by signing.
There is nothing to be ashamed of. I voted for PSE.
Interesting to see other deafies to vote for ASL. I honestly don't think that most of them realize that they sign in PSE. They cannot see themselves.
For what I've learned from my hearing kids that many competitive singers from "American Idol" did not realize themselves that they have very good voices. My kids can tell what the voices look like.
It's analogy to the signers that does not realize themselves for using the PSE. They still think that they are the ASL users.
Of course I sign depending on who I associate with, but mostly indicates which signs do we use most of the time as in 'often'.
Still, many whom think they use ASL are not aware that they are actually using PSE, as we have found. Also those are aware they are using PSE knows it but they call it ASL. So, I think this poll result reflects that mentality.
I learned that ASL was formally invented in the late 60's. I'm not sure but if we go back to 100 years ago, hardly ASL users. It looks more of PSE because there were heavy finger spelling. I've met lot of old folks in Rochester and I couldn't follow their finger spelling. The y were fast. All languages that I've noticed have changed. FAG used to be a cigarette and changed to a offensive slang. That was 50 years ago. People change, don't we all?
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You forgot to add SIGNED ENGLISH because I use Signed English.
thank you, Mike, for bringing PSE out of the closet! ;) now I can finally see I'm not alone. I feel so liberated!
anonymous#2
Mike,
I would like to pick PSE, but this particular poll does not allow me to pick others at the same time. Therefore, I, normally, use transliteration and PSE in my working environment. However, in casual converstation with the Deaf/deaf/CI/HOH, I would use between PSE/ASL. I, also, speak in English and Spanish. That makes it even worse. I am not help in this poll at this point. Thanks, anyways.
WisDeaf
Mike, no offense here why are you talking with your mouth not your hand on your youtube? It sound like you are trying to say speaking is supreme than any lanuage and yet you are deaf! your point to DonG is worthless because you speaking not signing and i find this really low class from you thanks sorry if you feel im insulting you that is not what i am trying to do here.
I prefer signing in SEE because I think in structured English. Sarcasm, jokes, etc. is better conveyed in SEE than ASL. Slapstick comedies... not my cup of tea.
- Wiggums
I voted! LOL. PSE preferred user here.
anony @12:33 PM,
It's about not being ashamed on the modality you use to communicate. Just as there is no shame to admit that you use PSE all the time. I use my voice as a hard of hearing person since I am quite comfortable with it and not ashamed to speak. No message was lost since I included captions for those who cannot hear or understand.
Get used to it. And visit DVTV where I responded by signing.
There is nothing to be ashamed of. I voted for PSE.
Interesting to see other deafies to vote for ASL. I honestly don't think that most of them realize that they sign in PSE. They cannot see themselves.
For what I've learned from my hearing kids that many competitive singers from "American Idol" did not realize themselves that they have very good voices. My kids can tell what the voices look like.
It's analogy to the signers that does not realize themselves for using the PSE. They still think that they are the ASL users.
White Ghost
I voted, too!
~ Renée J. the PSE user
Sigh, I didn't vote because I use different modalities as the occasion demands it, even with a bit of foreign signs.
For someone who resists pigeonholing, this is contradictory. For many of us, it depends on who we associate with most often.
I think the key word here is "mostly".
Do you sign mostly in?
Of course I sign depending on who I associate with, but mostly indicates which signs do we use most of the time as in 'often'.
Still, many whom think they use ASL are not aware that they are actually using PSE, as we have found. Also those are aware they are using PSE knows it but they call it ASL. So, I think this poll result reflects that mentality.
I learned that ASL was formally invented in the late 60's. I'm not sure but if we go back to 100 years ago, hardly ASL users. It looks more of PSE because there were heavy finger spelling. I've met lot of old folks in Rochester and I couldn't follow their finger spelling. The y were fast.
All languages that I've noticed have changed. FAG used to be a cigarette and changed to a offensive slang. That was 50 years ago.
People change, don't we all?
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