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Sunday, August 04, 2013

When extremism goes after their own sign language interpreters

AFA and others have been demonizing interpreters hired by A.G. Bell while others have produced names and pictures of them. Never mind that Professional Interpreters are bound by a code of professional conduct to provide equal access, remain neutral, and keep confidential, no matter who the clients are. But for any sign language interpreters to show up at the July 18 - 20, 2013 A.G. Bell LSLS Symposium in Los Angeles was met, ironically, with outrage by extremist adherents. Damned if you do produce an interpreter, damned if you don't and not provide that all important communication access.  Interpreters who were hired at the A.G. Bell LSLS Symposium get called as "traitors" and other name bashing. Rick P. and few others on the Facebook discussion were the only few sane, common sense people on board contributing to the discussion.
Folks, as a CODA, a husband of a Deaf woman, an interpreter and a colleague of Mr. LoParo, I can tell you Bob is neither a traitor nor a supporter of AGB. He was there to provide communication access - period. Think about it. If he wasn't there, how would you know what they were really saying? If you depended on his work to know what was being said, then you know he wasn't the message, he was only the messenger. Don't shoot the messenger. Many of us interpret in situations we don't really like. Just because an interpreter takes a job it doesn't mean we support any particular side. In fact, if we did, we shouldn't take the job. I'm sure Bob knew that taking the job would be difficult. I'm also sure he felt that the Deaf people who were there to protest had a right to know what was being said and that's probably why he took the job.
Jen P. interjects:
I am stunned by this witch hunt. I hope you all realize what you are saying when you say you expect interpreters to serve only those with whom they agree. Be very careful what you wish for. We live and act in a political world. We interpret in a neutral one.
Rick P. continues on his with his explanation shedding a bit more light on the misplaced mock outrage.
The reality in this situation is that Mr. LoParo was not paid directly by AGBell. He worked for an interpreting agency that was providing interpreters at the request of the conference. It seems like interpreters are in a no-win situation with this. We see what has happened with Mr. LoParo in this posting. I'm curious what would have happened if no interpreters accepted the job. Would we then be accused of being audist and on AGBell's "side" because there was a lack of communication access? Would we then be accused of intentionally keeping the Deaf community "in the dark"? Personally, I encourage our communities to have a discussion about the situation. I would also warn that some people on this thread are getting close to the legal definition of slander. I would also warn that we are "dividing and conquering" ourselves which plays right into the hands of the oppressor.
And that has been the biggest problem among culturally deaf rabid adherents when it comes to their own "dividing and conquering" within their own culturally deaf community.

Deborah M. makes a salient point on communication access and knowing what's going on at the convention.
I'm just saying that there could be situations where having an interpreter there at AGBell could be good for the Deaf community.
Rather than to attack interpreters for accepting an interpreting job at AG Bell, use them for the benefit of learning and meeting people in the effort to learn from each other the people at the symposium. Rick Pope made an observation about the AFA who was there.
Reading Ms. Jordan's account of the situation at the Omni hotel, it becomes clear that the AFA leader herself was using an interpreter for communication access that ensured her First Amendment rights. She clearly redirected people who were inappropriately trying to interpret.
"Ruthie made it clear that there were ASL certified and qualified interpreters at the rally and at no point should the security or police utilize AG Bell staff members as interpreters."
So, I have to wonder why an interpreter is catching hell from AFA supporters when the interpreter was requested by the AFA leadership. As for the comments about Mr. LoParo's "stone face", he was interpreting in a situation that could have or did involve law enforcement. If Mr. LoParo had greeted people with hugs and other behaviors that are common in the Deaf world, it could have given the impression that he was not impartial. This could have given the AGBers reason to remove him from the situation (I've seen it happen) thus negatively affecting communication access for the ASL-using protestors. Even by the AFA accounts on the website, Mr. LoParo behaved professionally and ensured the AFA leadership had meaningful access to their Constitutional rights. Why, then, is he being excoriated without any comment from the very consumers of his services?
Jen P. offered her perspective as an interpreter who attended a previous AG Bell conference.
I worked at the AGB Conference in Milwaukee in 2008, as an ASL interpreter and as an oral interpreter. I shall not discuss assignment specifics due to confidentiality. I am, however, compelled to say that AG Bell conferences are gathering places for a diverse assemblage of people, many of whom are deaf and, through no fault of their own, grew up deprived of access to a natural, visual language. Every last one of these individuals has the right to attend this or any other event, the right to discuss educational, social, linguistic and medical concerns with others who also face the same issues. They have the right to access language and information and the right to the interpreting or captioning services of their choosing. All of the attendees had an opportunity during the conference to either use or to see ASL interpreters at work. I am proud of the service I provided for these deaf individuals. I did not make the decision to work at this conference lightly or easily or without a lot of reflective and deliberate thought. Nobody has the right or authority to tell me which deaf people are (or ARE NOT) worthy of interpreting services, or in which contexts they may be served. The interpreters at these conferences are not conspirators with the enemy. They are not oralists or audists. They are performing the same professional, confidential and impartial services they provide to anyone else in the deaf/Deaf communities. You want to find out what happens if interpreters stop interpreting AG Bell conferences? It’s an interesting thought-experiment, but why stop there? Should VRS interpreters disconnect a call every time someone makes a comment in a phone conversation that is oppressive, hateful, rude, illegal, or distasteful? Do deaf people not have the human right to make their own mistakes, to deceive and be deceived, to have views that lie outside the mainstream? Should hearing interpreters decide who has the right to services based on a person’s religion, race, sexual orientation, political views, affiliations and memberships? Be careful of what you wish for. And please cease and desist with this intolerable and defamatory witch hunt. All of your energies are much better spent against your enemies than against your allies.
She further re-iterates the danger of blacklisting and choosing for the interpreters based on an ideological condition.
Patti, if one truly believes that the conference attendees have the right to equal access, it follows (for me) that as a professional, if I am qualified for the work and able to execute my duties with impartiality, then I need not recuse myself. I am not supporting an organization or an "ism". I am serving people. Actual people, not abstract stereotypes or cultural villains. The thinking on this thread has been very black and white. This setting is approved for interpreters, this setting is bad. This interpreter is good. This one is blacklisted. It is this kind of black and white thinking that rules the AG Bell roost. Signing is bad and talking is good. Activism can be polluted by extremism. I am not an AG Bell supporter. I support open communication between deaf and hearing people. I will not be intimidated by extremist thinking into believing that somebody else should do the work that I believe should be done and done well. It's not a great analogy, but some lawyers defend criminals because they believe in citizens rights to a fair defense. I believe in communication access. My conscience is clear.
The latest FB discussion is an interesting read on how extremism can get out of control. It's also an example of a slippery slope in action in the attempt to try and control interpreters on who they should or should not interpret for purely on ideological and selfish motives. And at the same time fall prey to their own paranoia. A move that would guarantee shooting oneself in the foot each and every time.

Friday, May 03, 2013

California Dept of Education Position Statement on Language Access


California Department of Education has recently posted on May 3rd (final paper on March 4) a position statement on language access of deaf and hard of hearing children in California.
In support of California EC 56000.5, the Deaf Child's Bill of Rights, this document provides clarification for the CDEs position supporting the right of children to have access to a complete language, visual or spoken, as appropriate, from birth.
Note the "or" in "visual or spoken" which means that deaf children has the right to have access to spoken language, visual language, or both rather than just on visual language alone.  It's interesting that they didn't say sign language but visual language instead (see the yellow highlight below).

There's more.
Believes that children who are Deaf or Hard of Hearing have the right to receive appropriate services that will provide them with exposure to fully accessible natural languages – American Sign Language (ASL), and spoken English (or other spoken language).

  • Accepts and respects all languages.
  • Accepts and respects all communication tools (i.e., Cued Speech, Signing Exact English, Conceptually Accurate Signed English, Sign Supported Speech, Simultaneous Communication).
  • Accepts and respects all educational approaches in the education of Deaf and Hard of Hearing children (i.e., ASL/English Bilingual, Listening and Spoken Language, and Total Communication).
  • Recognizes and respects the right of parents of children who are Deaf or Hard of Hearing to receive comprehensive information about the language opportunities available to them.
  • Recognizes and respects the right of parents of children who are Deaf or Hard of Hearing to receive comprehensive information about the communication tools available to them.
  • Recognizes and respects the right of parents of children who are born Deaf or Hard of Hearing to receive comprehensive information about the educational approaches in the education of Deaf and Hard of Hearing children.

  • Recognize the "accepts and respects all languages" and the communication tools?

    Remember when president Hurtwitz re-iterated the key point on what ICED issued a global call to "accept and respect all languages and all forms of communication" in the education of deaf and hard of hearing people.

    Remember AB2072?

    Yeah.








    Sunday, April 14, 2013

    Can you spot the video difference?

    Can you spot the differences between these three videos? Maybe the irony? Before you complain, think first. Keep it clean...and nice. That's my only request.





    The last video talks about this guy in a screenshot which can be found here.

    Enjoy.

    Saturday, September 08, 2012

    Speed Limit



    Which is faster in communicating? American Sign Language (ASL), Signing Exact English (S.E.E.) or Oral (i.e. speaking)?  Is speed really that important? Does speed indicate intelligence? Does speed indicate IQ capability? Why does it matter when it comes to the speed of communicating?  What's really important when it comes to communicating? Well, in my humble opinion it does not really matter when it comes to "communication speed. It doesn't matter which communication methods is used as long as whatever works and that the person is comfortable with it. Speed isn't a factor here but the ability to communicate effectively, comfortably and people are able to understand you. And that the communication is an intelligible one.  But I'm still quiet impressed if a person can speak at an ungodly speed breaking the world record as the fastest talker at 600+ words per minute. And I can only type 80 wpm! Holy schmoly!


    Sunday, July 15, 2012

    The right not to be Deaf or not?

    I visited Patti Durr's blog on one of her 6 part series "The Right to be...Deaf" and what I found interesting was the Part V discussion with Joseph Pietro Riolo and the 41 comments written there. Joseph Pietro Riolo's comments were insightful with his wickedly smart comments. I'm combining those recent discussions of Joseph's with that of Patti's recent June 2012 blog on preventing language deprivation in deaf and hard of hearing children.  It is a recent proposal to NAD on the effort to get federal and state governments to intervene on Parental Rights to make informed decisions for their deaf/hh children seen in their proposed model (PDF file):
    Proposal: The NAD shall set up a Headquarters Ad-Hoc Committee to look into developing model state and federal legislation to prevent language deprivation.
    The Committee shall be comprised of individuals with expertise in various relevant areas including legal, educational and socio- and neuro-linguistic development to look into the possibility of making liable actions that causes harm to Deaf children as a result of the deprivation of American Sign Language and develop model state and federal legislation for such liability.
     

    The committee should also look into developing model state and federal legislation that would require medical and audiology personnel to refer deaf infants/children and their families to American Sign Language instruction and education prior to undertaking any medical procedure that may presume to provide hearing.

    The committee should also develop a strategy for the adoption of these legislation including identifying which states may be most favorable as early adopters of those legislation.
     

    This is to be an ad-hoc Headquarter committee reporting to the CEO. A full report including the first draft of a model legislation must be completed by December 1, 2013.
    What was interesting is that in the proposal it stated that:
    "The NAD shall set up a Headquarters Ad-Hoc Committee to look into developing model state and federal legislation to prevent language deprivation." 
    But looking further into the proposal it went from "prevent language deprivation" to the the more specific prevention on the deprivation of American Sign Language by requiring parents to be referred to ASL prior to any cochlear implantation or use of hearing aids.
     The committee should also look into developing model state and federal legislation that would require medical and audiology personnel to refer deaf infants/children and their families to American Sign Language instruction and education prior to undertaking any medical procedure that may presume to provide hearing.
    Yet nothing about requiring parents to look into other types of visual language such as SEE or Total Communication which uses a visual language of the English language done in a signed format. No other points were made about other visual language or other supporting inputs such as SimCom, Cued Speech, Signed English and contact languages.

    Now,  I'm against any language deprivation for children whether they are hearing, deaf, or hard of hearing. A child's brain crave communication and language inputs whether it's by spoken or visual language. Even Dr. Ron Stern commented in his presentation that any language deprivation is disabling whether it's sign language or the spoken language it does not matter since the brain does not discriminate and craves input. Which means children with hearing aids and cochlear implants can and do get their language inputs via the spoken language.  Just as well in the latest Italian study on 2 months old to 24 months old deaf children who got their cochlear implants showed that those under 6 months were able to develop excellent language and communication developments on par of their hearing peers. Early intervention works as long as parents are actively involved in the language and communication developments just like the parents have done for the little deaf girl Lotte of Norway who can speak 3 languages. 

    As for Joseph Pietro Riolo (JPR) he made some very salient points and asked the important questions when it came to Parental Rights for their deaf or hard of hearing children as seen in Patti's blog Part V series . I'll use some of Joseph's points and comments in this blog by highlighting them. What really boils down to is that parents do have the right to decide on how to raise their deaf child in terms of mode and mean of communication and language acquisition. They just need help in the category of getting the right information in an unbiased manner in order to make an informed decision.

    First, let's talk about the article “And the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped: An Examination of the Cochlear Implant From a Jewish Bioethical Perspective” by Rabbi Darby Jared Leigh whose last paragraph makes a conceding point in support of  parents making a decision on cochlear implant.  Commenters tried to use Rabbi Leigh's same article to "prove" their case saying it is "a moral violation to do surgery on a healthy body" per the Jewish religion:
    “A consolidation of these views leads only to the idea that from a Jewish perspective we ought not to impose opinions on the people who must make a decision vis a vis the cochlear implant, namely, the parents or legal guardian(s) of deaf children. The responsibility of Jews with respect to the cochlear implant is only to make sure that individuals considering this medical procedure have access to all of the relevant information from the medical community, the Deaf community, and from within Jewish tradition. Once this is done, others should step back and respect the divine image within those individuals, and allow them the space and freedom to reach their own conclusions and make their own decisions.”
    JPR makes a comment regarding the last paragraph and I agree with his assessment, too.
    This paragraph actually supports the decision to put cochlear implant in a deaf child if his or her parents decide to do so. Also, it supports the decision not to put cochlear implant in a deaf child. In other words, there is nothing wrong with putting or not putting cochlear implant in a deaf child.
    Certainly, nothing wrong with putting or not putting cochlear implant in a deaf child as long as parents are adequately informed. Parental rights are ensured here in allowing them to make the necessary and informed decision for their deaf children.

    JPR used The Universal Declaration of Human Rights in Article 26(3) to point out that parents have a parental right to choose for their children:
    “Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.” 
    And argued that it:
    "strongly suggests that the parents of a deaf child can choose the pure oralism for the deaf child." 
    So it goes that there is nothing in the The Universal Declaration of Human Rights document that states that Parental Rights would be overridden by the right of a deaf child to be culturally deaf. In fact, there is no mechanism to enforce the right of a deaf child to be culturally deaf over Parental Rights, and there shouldn't be a mechanism to ensure that due to numerous inherent problems as JPR explained why.
    How a person is supposed to do when he or she sees that the right of a deaf child to be culturally Deaf is violated? Is he or she supposed to report the violation to police? Is he supposed to report the violation to Child Protection Service (or similar agency)? Is she supposed to report the violation to National Association of the Deaf, Deaf Bilingual Coalition or similar organization that will send a legal team to defend the right of the deaf child? Is he supposed to report the violation to any organization that focuses on human rights? After the violation is reported, how is the right supposed to be enforced? Does this mean that the parents are to be ordered by court or governmental agency to respect, maintain and support the right of the deaf child to be culturally Deaf? What will happen if the parents still refuse to do that?
    Indeed. Lots of problems once that Pandora Box is opened.

    But let's look at the "Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities" again. In a proposal to NAD they stated their rationale on why state and federal governments should intervene on Parental Rights.
    Rationale: Past attempts through the educational system to ensure that Deaf children are not isolated and linguistically deprived have experienced extremely limited success. Alternative approaches needs to be fully explored.

    This motion is timely because the United Nations developed and adopted the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (“CRPD”) to advance equality further throughout the world. The CRPD makes repeated specific references to the deaf community and sign language in its text.
    However, in CRPD document it states that no obligation is required of the parents to use sign language with their deaf children. In other words if parents choose pure oralism without using a signed language approach for their deaf child, the parents do not violate anything in that document supported by the United Nation. Although in the document it does require governments to accept and recognize the use of sign languages as seen in Article 21(b) and (e):
    (b) Accepting and facilitating the use of sign languages, Braille, augmentative and alternative communication, and all other accessible means,modes and formats of communication of their choice by persons with disabilities in official interactions;

    (e) Recognizing and promoting the use of sign languages.
    Also in Article 24(3)(c) it states:
    “Ensuring that the education of persons, and in particular children,who are blind, deaf or deaf/blind, is delivered in the most appropriate languages and modes and means of communication for the individual, and in environments which maximize academic and social development."
    Note the underlined bold in the above which could mean to include CART services, FM loop, sign language (ASL, PSE, SEE, what have you), speaking and listening, and so on. There are a variety of ways that can meet those assurances.

    In Article 30(4) it points out for people with disabilities on the
    “recognition and support of their specific cultural and linguistic identity, including sign languages and deaf culture”
    As far as I can tell there is nothing in the document (Convention of the Rights of Persons with Disabilities) forbidding the parent’s right to choose pure oralism, ASL, SEE,PSE, SE, SimCom, contact language, manual alphabet, cued speech, Total Communication and such. Just as well there is nothing in the  document that showed any support of governments to actively suppress the use of sign language through laws, governmental actions and so forth, either.

    In fact, JPR pointed out an all too apparent of an obligation and concluded that,
    "a government has the obligation to deliver education in the modes and means that agree with pure oralism. What the governments cannot do is that they cannot suppress or exclude any modes, means or languages when the parents of children with disabilities want them or ask for them."
    And that's the bottom line when it comes to governmental intervention, which is already limited for a reason, on language and mode of communication and that such a decision is still within the parents' rights.

    Next in the proposal to NAD they made a claim about cochlear implant and deaf children.
    Today, 80% of children born deaf in the developed world are implanted with cochlear devices that allow some of them access to sound in their early years, which helps them to develop speech.
    That 80% statistics comes with no references although in Norway the implantation rate is much higher at 90% to 95%.
    Every year approximately 40 deaf children are born in Norway. Approximately 90 to 95 % of deaf children in Norway are offered a cochlear implant (CI) in one or both ears. CI is an advanced hearing aid that helps children to perceive sound. Children with CI have special follow-up needs and their parents have to decide preferred communication mode for their child. In Norway, there are mainly three approaches: use of both spoken language and sign language (bilingual communication), spoken language with sign support or spoken language alone (oral communication).
    Yet I believe that in the United States we are no where near that rate, not even at 80%. Some developed countries are more active in getting deaf children implanted such as Norway. As for the United States according to the FDA via the NIH webpage:
    According to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), as of December 2010, approximately 219,000 people worldwide have received implants. In the United States, roughly 42,600 adults and 28,400 children have received them.
    And that's to date since 1990 when first introduced to children. About 1 in 1000 babies born is profoundly deaf each year in the United States. Over 4 million babies are born each year which leaves about ~4,000 babies born profoundly deaf each year where perhaps 88,000 profoundly deaf babies have been born since 1990.  About 1/4 of them or about 25% have gotten their cochlear implant so far. As for European countries the implantation rate comes in around at 70%. In Canada it is estimated that approximately 174 deaf children receive cochlear implants each year though no estimates on the number of profoundly deaf babies that are born each year yet Canada's population is roughly 1/10th of the United States so it perhaps reasonable they have the same cochlear implantation rate as the United States.

    Ok. Onward to "genocide." Ghastly, ghastly term!

    Patti essentially stated that by denying ASL to deaf children it would  be considered as an "act of genocide" per the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide." But according to the "Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide" it says nothing of the sort.  JPR elaborated: 
    Again, if the parents of a deaf child decide to exercise their right to put cochlear implant in the child and to use the pure oralism when raising the child, they do not violate anything in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.
    The only thing in the document that seems to be related to the topic on hand is the term “mental harm” as in “Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;” (Article II(b)). Although the enumeration of groups does not include linguistic groups (“In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, …” (Article II)), I will assume that the enumeration is broad enough to include the linguistic groups that include Deaf culture.
    It may be possible that some people will attempt to argue that depriving a deaf child of ASL is equivalent to “mental harm” on the child. However, the child is usually not a member of Deaf culture if the parents are hearing or are of the Hearing culture. Just because a child is deaf does not mean that he or she is automatically a member of the Deaf culture. In this interpretation, the parents do not violate anything in the convention if they decide to raise their deaf child in a Hearing culture without using sign language.
    Two points here as seen in the above underlined bold words. First, there is no intent, systematic or otherwise, to rid or destroy the use of ASL or sign language. Utterly a fantastical if not an unnecessary paranoid belief.  Second point is that a deaf child born into hearing parents is not automatically a member of the deaf culture. So no use in trying to call deaf babies as "Deaf babies" since the term "Deaf" with the upper case "D" has always denoted to mean culturally deaf people. According to Carol Padden and Tom Humphries, in Deaf in America: Voices from a Culture (1988) explains the meaning and difference between "D"eaf and "d"eaf:

    We use the lowercase deaf when referring to the audiological condition of not hearing, and the uppercase Deaf when referring to a particular group of deaf people who share a language – American Sign Language (ASL) – and a culture. The members of this group have inherited their sign language, use it as a primary means of communication among themselves, and hold a set of beliefs about themselves and their connection to the larger society. We distinguish them from, for example, those who find themselves losing their hearing because of illness, trauma or age; although these people share the condition of not hearing, they do not have access to the knowledge, beliefs, and practices that make up the culture of Deaf people.
    Some organizations even attempted to change that very definition by inserting "Deaf" into their own bylaws without giving any real definition to it and could easily be construed to mean only culturally deaf people. Over the last three decades Deaf (culturally deaf) people have made it a point that they "own" that word and for it to mean explicitly one thing, a group that uses ASL and have a culture.  And that brings up an important consideration about raising a deaf child in a hearing culture without using sign language because doing so does not necessarily violate any of the articles or documents I provided in this blog thus far. 

    Below JPR explains and clarifies his position which mirrors much like mine in a lot of ways.
    1) It is always my personal position that any deaf child – actually, any child – should have the freedom to sign (not just ASL or any natural signed languages but also SimCom, Cued Speech, Signed English and contact languages). But, I would never want to impose my position on any parents. I would write a true story about a deaf child being punished for signing at home; I would write an opinion article criticizing some parents who do not allow their children to sign; I would make a film that tells about a deaf child who run away from draconian parents who do not let him or her to sign; I would search for grants to research on deaf children who are not allowed by their parents to sign; if I were a professional, I would confront the parents and inform them that they are going too far in not allowing their deaf children to sign; and so on.
    But, I would never want to create a new right for a deaf child to be culturally Deaf. When we create a new right for a deaf child, we are eroding the parental right. This will give a precedent for the majority (read: Hearing culture) to create another new right for a deaf child to have the access to spoken language through cochlear implant and doing so erodes parental right further more. If the parents of a deaf child refuses to put cochlear implant in the child, the majority will say, “See, any deaf child has the right of access to spoken language and therefore, your child must have cochlear implant. Never mind your parental right to decide how to raise your deaf child. After all, you want bilingualism. Giving cochlear implant to your deaf child will help bilingualism. Your child will have both ASL and the spoken English language. More power to bilingualism!” The deaf child is taken away from their parents for surgery at an undisclosed hospital.
    I may go too far in describing the above scenario but it can happen. It is not hard to predict that cochlear implant technology is getting better and better and the success rate is increasing steadily. Before, the success rate was around 1/3 (33%). Now, it is around 1/2 (50%). Maybe, by the year of 2015, the rate may go up to 2/3 (66%). Maybe, by the year of 2020, the rate may go up to 3/4 (75%). It is very tempting for the majority to override the parental right and go directly to the deaf children and have them receive cochlear implant in spite of the objections from their parents.
    Creating a new right for deaf child may be cool now but it could give a new precedent for the majority later on.
    In other words, be careful on what you ask for on trying to get the governments to override Parental Rights because it just may backfire.

    In my own clarification, I'd be wary of allowing the idea that government be given the consideration to force parents with deaf/hh children on issues regarding sign language, cochlear implant, oral/aural routes and educational upbringing.  Removing Parental Rights is not the answer. Parents have the right to make an informed decision regarding their deaf/hh child when it comes to mode of communication, the means, language development, and educational upbringing. All we can do is provide all the necessary information for parents and provide them them the necessary resources and support so they can make an informed decision. Just as Rabbi Darby Jared Leigh said previously on parents making an informed decision:
    Once this is done, others should step back and respect the divine image within those individuals, and allow them the space and freedom to reach their own conclusions and make their own decisions.
    And so there you have it.

    Wednesday, August 17, 2011

    Noelle's blog

    Noelle produced a blog recently on calling out NAD for its association with a seemingly questionable organization who defaced a sign (although not permanently) by covering up the words on an AGBell plaque on the side of AGBell's building in D.C. last month.  Noelle is re-iterating or pointing out that the image of an organization would be perceived negatively or even militant for its approach even though she supports the use of sign language.
    Instead of attacking and protesting a rival organization, they should be promoting ASL and the benefits of bilingualism at the local, state, and national level, and asking for it to be included in ALL communication modes in legislation.
    Putting it into picture on what Noelle and many others are trying to say is this:




    Whether it's SEE, ASL, PSE, or even cued speech, anything that helps with the visual aspect of communicating with a language is a pretty good start for kids with hearing loss. Of course, that probably depend on the amount of hearing loss if we're talking about those with mild versus severe/profound hearing loss.

    Monday, July 18, 2011

    Maligned for hate sake

    What is really odd is how one person makes the claim that by "pushing" (e.g. making it personal by calling Gina "GAS" as in YouTube's "GAS in the flesh" subject line instead of calling by her proper name) against Gina would ensure that "unity" will somehow magically occur in the Deaf community. It is certainly surreal to suggest that "unity" would work by outing people by harassing them, making online threats or expose their physical or online identities. It wouldn't make any sense to say that "pushing" will work for the sake of "unity." Rather, I see all this "pushing" as an excise in grudge mongering and a bit of hate in the process. Nothing more. All it was is that ASLeslie found a video of Gina in Fookembug's YouTube channel that was 2 years old and decided to parade it around and expose Gina's physical identity. That was the goal.  Even knowing after the fact that her employer was contacted in the effort to out Gina's identity and hoping to harm her employment. It was nothing more than an example of a bit of hate mongering by making it personal towards an individual he or she doesn't like. To say it any other way would be disingenuous and dishonest.

    I've read Gina's blogs and saw no indication of her putting down the Deaf community or even ASL given the fact that she was born deaf and into a culturally deaf family. She is in fact a part of the Deaf community. I see her as having strong opinions on a variety of subjects or issues that can evoke strong feelings among many Deaf people (e.g. the AB2072 bill). Many confuse having a strong opinion on a particular Deaf-related topic as "putting down the Deaf community" whenever Gina opines or notes the discrepancies based on her observations as a culturally deaf person. Many Deaf people have agreed with her, many didn't.

    The same goes for ASL.

    I saw nothing of the sort from Gina of her "putting down ASL." In fact, even DonG admitted that he does tend to sign in English word order ("PSE") and not in the ASL sense which was Gina's point all along in one of her blog and nothing about putting ASL down. Instead she gave examples of why ASL is not ASL whenever people make the claim of signing in ASL. DonG is a perfect example of signing in English word order. So is my signing. And many others who in the same boat as we are. That's not putting down ASL or labeling but about making observations about ASL and those who sign.

    For a person to make online claims without showing any examples of what Gina said or wrote does not strengthen an argument but rather it weakens a claim considerably. It makes the person look even more petty. And people will see that as nothing but hot air. All in all I say it's pretty odd and strange for those who say that by "pushing" others in order for them to "come clean" by twisting and lying will ensure "unity" in a Deaf community. I'm sure it won't. And it certainly won't help in the deaf and hard of hearing community either by any stretch of the imagination.

    Friday, June 17, 2011

    The new deaf generation....listening and speaking.

    Cochlear implant technology has enabled a whole new generation of deaf people enabling them the ability to speak, listen and understand the spoken word, and acquire a language. Below are two split videos of a documentary of deaf children who were outfitted with cochlear implants while very young. They were interviewed later on in life as pre-teens and teenagers and talking to them, you wouldn't know they were deaf. These group of deaf people are the next upcoming crop of new generation of deaf people with cochlear implants.

    In the documentary, those children and teens are from Australia where all of them grew up with all of the inflection, pitch and intonation in their voices with an apparent Australian accent. When that happens you know for fact that early intervention works and that cochlear implant provides that very access to a world of speaking and listening, and spoken language acquisition. For parents of deaf babies to watch this documentary would prove to be powerfully insightful and full of hope for them that anything else wouldn't be anywhere near as convincing. This documentary points out that cochlear implants do work and that early intervention is the most important key of them all because of the brain's early plasticity development. Parents would be the glue to make it all work.

    Be sure to watch all of the video documentary before commenting so that you can be properly informed on what was covered in the video.

    Part I
    http://youtu.be/0lmCuyrgc80

    Part II
    http://youtu.be/ttd2l9J9oqE


    When I watched that documentary I was simply amazed at the children and teens' voices and I could actually hear their full inflection, pitch and intonation of their accented (Australian) voices as opposed to hearing American kids with cochlear implants (they do just as well, btw). The difference was hearing their Australian accent vs American accent. Which means one thing, cochlear implant does work even to capture the accent of their (hearing) native spoken language. Not only just speaking but listening as well. The boy with the rocket ship doesn't need to look at his teachers' mouth (i.e. lip reading) to have a conversation. He even understood the electronic voice in the space rocket announcing a countdown (5, 4, 3, 2, 1...blast off!) and the boy would hear that and lifts the rocket up.

    Early intervention is the key and parental involvement must play a huge role in this. Not doing those things would simply be left to chance. All this is from an aural and oral development point of view I acknowledge readily. I still see that signing such as SEE, SE, PSE or ASL can play an important role for deaf and hard of hearing children although perhaps in some areas not as critical to others (e.g. profoundly deaf vs those with mild hearing loss at 30 db). It's simply up to parents to make an *informed decision* before moving forward. And we must accept those parents' decisions. The decision does not rest with anyone else. Yet this documentary video will prove to be compelling to parents of deaf babies by providing them the biggest hope and a confirmation that it does work.  How can you compete with that when it comes to speaking and listening development?

    Tuesday, April 26, 2011

    Having an apoplectic fit over "ASL failed."

    It's one thing to have a discussion about Barry's "ASL failed" vlog or ScorpionAZ's vlog on the merit of the topic itself by delving deeper to understand why and how ASL or sign language "failed" and how it could be improved versus using the opportunity to make personal attacks against that person instead. You have two line types of crowd of people. One type of crowd is the kind of people who leave open the possibility for improvement or that such examples of "failures in communication" or misunderstandings do exist. Another type of crowd is the kind of people who would rather attack a person just because they don't like the analysis that was presented.

    I understood where Barry and ScorpionAZ were going with the whole "ASL failed" topic when I watched both of their vlogs. I never once considered that they were attacking ASL with the phrase "ASL failed" but saw as how they noticed problems with ASL instead. I also noticed that they are ASL signers, too. It'd be quite unconvincing for someone to tell me that they were actually attacking ASL. We should know better.  Yet, and with no surprise, many people used the opportunity to personally attack Barry and ScorpionAZ in their vlogs rather than discuss the merit of the topic itself, and not about the person. Some attempted to do so under the guise of an "objective intellectual discourse" but their body language and sarcastic tone say otherwise. It's not end of the world when someone says "ASL failed." Learn to get past the "ASL failed" discussion and go a bit deeper in what they were trying to convey. We all fail at one time but only to dust ourselves and keep going.  At the very least attack the topic being discussed (or better yet simply disagree) instead of personally attacking the person who brought up his/her own points based on his/her observations. Disagreeing is one thing and that's acceptable but to make personal attacks is entirely a different matter. Doing so is example of an infantile behavior at work.

    I have a good friend who is deaf and is quiet fluent in ASL. He grew up signing in SEE and later in life transitioned over to ASL without any problems. Yes, ASL. Not PSE. Although he has no problem doing that, either. One time during a court proceeding an ASL interpreter (Level 5 RID) was voicing what he was signing. He said "I did not mind" to the judge but the interpreter said "I don't care." He caught her saying that and made clear to the court that he didn't say that. With the intricacies of English, context is everything, especially in court. And in ASL a simple "I don't mind" was horribly mangled and translated into as "I don't care" to the judge. Both phrases are not the same thing on what he tried to specifically express to the judge in court. Context is everything.

    More on that later but it won't be coming from me. You'll see.

    Sunday, April 10, 2011

    NAD...less?

    NAD as an organization provides a valuable service for deaf and hard of hearing people but there's a caveat here. It's not like I want to see NAD go away. No, nothing like that at all. They provide a valuable service such as advocating for more captioning service and so on yet they are seen as an organization that caters mostly to a specific group of people, culturally deaf people who signs in ASL (or at least when they think they sign in ASL but it's more of a mixed sign than not with strong English word order and format).

    Problem here is that NAD does not have a position statement on accepting and respecting all forms of communication and languages including SEE, PSE, cued speech just as ICED recently made clear on respecting and accepting all forms of communication and languages. NAD does have a position statement on ASL and that was to be expected since they are focused on a particular group of audience than to a wider audience, something that HLAA caters to anyone with a hearing loss.

    Some people tend to jump the gun and think I'm about advocating for the loss of "ASL" or the collapse of NAD and so forth. No. What I write are what I'm observing and provide talking points on those things. Just because my title says "The coming collapse of NAD" does not mean that I'm hoping it collapse.  I made clear on the problems on what is NAD is facing and not about hoping for an eventual collapse.
    Will NAD "collapse"? No. But certainly there are competitions out there and for people who feel they are not being well represented and will look elsewhere for support and the opportunity offer their contributions to the cause. The majority of people with hearing loss in the United States are not even a part of the deaf culture or have very little association with those culturally deaf organizations and/or culturally deaf people. Roughly 2% of the 36 million people with hearing loss are people who are considered to be culturally deaf. This is primarily the group that NAD caters mostly to seeing that their BODs are entirely made up of culturally deaf people and their interests mostly revolve around culturally deaf people and ASL, and how issues affect them. They essentially made their own "glass ceiling."
    What I have observed, and I'm not alone in this observation either, is this "glass ceiling" effect that NAD imposes on itself whose organization looks to be more specialized than inclusive.  And nothing more beyond that. Jumping the gun about what I wrote doesn't help, folks.

    To me, anybody that signs whether it's in SEE, PSE, mixed sign, ASL or what have you I see it as a language they are using to communicate. This is simply because of the fact that when people say they sign in "ASL" they are probably most likely signing outside of the recognized semantics, grammar, syntax, morphology, and phonology that defines specifically what ASL is about. Or in another word "pure" ASL, for the lack of a better word here. So, I don't feel the need nor the desire to analyze whether a person signing is in fact a language or not. He or she is communicating in his or her own special way of signing. For them, they consider their own signing as a language in its own right. I think it boils down to pride and arrogance to go around and say, "Your signing is a language. Yours is not. Yours is almost there. Yep, yours is definitely a language."

    So, in retrospect there is nothing "speshul" about ASL in terms of whether its signing is considered to be a language or not. Rather an arrogant view to say which signing is the only acceptable "language." All of the various modes of signing are special in their own right and if people feel it's a language to them and how it benefits them with their daily communicating and learning, so be it. All the more power to them! And for the record, I'd say that SEE, for example, is a language. It's a visual language since it uses the complete English language in all of its grammar, semantics,  syntax and meanings in a very accessible visual format.

    My point is this. Any signing, I say it's a language in it's own right by those who use it for their own benefit.  A visual language, that is. As for NAD, good luck to them. In the end, what counts are whether people with hearing loss feel that they are being cared for, catered to, or feel that they are getting the necessary support without the need for petty politics or favoritism.  Whatever works, support them for that and you'll go farther than ever before.

    Friday, April 08, 2011

    ICED....over II

    From what JPR said this morning on what he saw last night April 7, 2011:

    I thought I would share this news with you.
    Last night, I watched Dr. Jane K. Fernandes' presentation at NTID (National Technical Institute for the Deaf) on the topic of inclusive Deaf Studies. A little bit after she was introduced, she mentioned about the past ICED and how it recognized that the Milan resolution was in error. Then, she mentioned about respecting all languages and forms of communication. She mentioned that she was giving her presentation in honor of that respect for all forms of communication. The main thrust of her presentation was that the discipline of Deaf Studies should be broadened to include the diverse deaf people outside of the standard ASL deaf signers in the Deaf culture. I am sure that this is familiar to all of you.
    I thought that it was neat and nice that she remembered and recognized the importance of the respect for all languages and forms of communication that she decided to honor it with her presentation. Given that this happened in close proximity with Mr. Mike McConnell's and Candy's blog, I wanted to share this news.
    (She and other co-author wrote two articles whose web links are shown at the bottom of the webpage at http://www.rit.edu/ntid/lyon/speakers/jane-k-fernandes-phd ).
    Joseph Pietro Riolo

    Interesting development. I wrote my blog on April 4, 2011 and she gave her speech on April 7, 2011 on basically about diversity and respect for all communications and languages per the ICED recommendations.

    Thank you for the heads up, JPR.

    Wednesday, April 06, 2011

    "Hoodless"....

    It was a sad day to witness the beginning on the calling of deaf/hh people as "hoodless."  I warned people in my blog 5 years ago about the dangers of judging people for what they "have" or "don't have" when it comes to "deafhood." Which was why many of us made the point of saying "Deafhood? No thanks" and joined the DNT Facebook for that very reason. We continue on with own our unique but deeply personal journey in life as people with hearing loss and how we identify ourselves as and whatever makes you happy. We recognize the value of diversity, and that we support and respect all forms of communication and language.  We say "no thanks" to "deafhood" because we recognized right away it would lead to acts of discrimination and segregation. It has simply become a glorified ideology specifically and mainly for culturally deaf people, and nothing more. That's the problem. It's not really about for anybody with hearing loss. There's a certain sine qua non when it comes to "deafhood," believe it or not. We don't presume who has "deafhood" and who doesn't, and that was the trap we recognized at the very beginning.  We prefer to move forward and not backward and instead would rather follow ICED recommendation to accept and respect all forms of communication and language whether combined or used alone be it PSE, ASL, SEE, cued speech, oral-aural, oral, the use of hearing aids and cochlear implants to help with the communication, or plainly just do without them.  We have respected those differences since day one even before ICED came out with their own recommendation.

    I'm sad to say this but I continue to be correct on this.

    I will continue to say "no thanks" and just simply accept you as for who you are, and not about what you are.  That's a simple recipe for happiness.

    Thursday, February 10, 2011

    Videos: Compare and Contrast on Communication Methods and Options

    Let's compare with the recent ASL video that came out on what it appears to be (CDE) California Department of Education's official support on the ASL option against all other communication methods and options in an equal unbiased approach on information for parents to watch. Also see the CDE Oversight Committee in the last video below at 12:55 to see the scrolling names. You might recognize some of the names. That alone certainly raise questions about the possibility of conflict of interest. Who is Andrew Laufer?

    As far as I can tell there were no budget set aside using California's public tax dollars to produce a video on other communication and language options for parents to learn and be informed about. The budget of $34,000 dollars was used to produce the inspirational ASL video with the intent to distribute DVD videos targeting parents of newborn Deaf or hard of hearing children. It is not known if CDE will include other DVDs, pamphlets or other information about other options along with the distributed ASL DVD video for parents to have. Is that their intent? Or just the ASL video only?

    I have a question for you CDE, are other options being denied to parents who need to know all other options in order to make an informed decision regarding their deaf/hh newborn child? Is this the only DVD video available for those parents that talks expressly only on ASL? Do you have other communication options to provide and show? Do you have plans to make other similar videos about Cued Speech? Signing Exact English? Audio-Verbal approaches? And so on?


    Auditory-oral approach on learning how to speak and improve listening skill.


    Cued speech with auditory-oral examples along with sign language using Cuers.


    A deaf/hh boy with hearing aid learning how to speak and listen fluently in both the English and Cantonese language through auditory-oral approach with his mother.


    A mother and deaf/hh son (with a cochlear implant) moment with her signing in SEE and him responding in SEE which is a full visual communication access of the English language while at the same time hear exactly the spoken English language.


    California Department of Education's ASL video of parents and kids signing only.

    Saturday, February 05, 2011

    ASL vs Signed English Video Music of "Do I"

    Here's a video of a song that is signed using the ASL version versus the SEE/English (signed English word order) version. The music is "Do I" by Luke Bryan signed by Allyballybabe. Here is what she has to say between the two signed versions.
    I wanted to show the differences between ASL and SEE/English. There is a HUGEEEE difference, and hopefully this helps to see that. SEE and English SL are NOT languages. ASL, however, IS a language! Enjoy!
    When searching for YouTube vids, be sure to take notice of if it is REALLY ASL, or if it's SEE/English that is mislabeled.. There are LOTS of SEE/English YouTubers out there. If you're wanting TRUE ASL, take caution..



    Click on YouTube to get to her site containing the lyrics in English and in ASL gloss.

    I agree. There is a stark difference. Just like that female astronaut who signed in PSE/SE/SEE (i.e. English word order) and certainly not in ASL. And thus no one can claim that first ASL was signed in outer space. Nearly 75% of those who answered my poll agreed that the female astronaut signed in an English word order format whether it's PSE, SEE, or SE. The point is that the majority saw the astronaut signed in English, not ASL which has a markedly different grammar and syntax than English. So, it's the signed English word order (whether it's PSE, SE, or SEE) that made into outer space. American Sign Language (ASL) never made it into outerspace but sign language did. So, don't call it ASL but sign language. It may be awhile til a true ASL signing astronaut will be seen from outer space. Meanwhile, let's celebrate the fact that sign language made its first debut in outer space in 2010!

    Huzzah!

    Sunday, January 23, 2011

    The Discombobulated ASL Body

    Broken ASL? Perfect ASL? SEE, SE, and PSE are not (modes of) communication by David? Perfect ASL?

    Calling PSE or English order signing as ASL where Patti said that "ASL has even made it into outerspace" by a female astronaut signing inside a space ship to mother Earth?

    But the astronaut is signing in Signed English (SE) but not in ASL according to Dianrez and Boutcher.

    Yet SE, according to, um, experts say it's not a language, so it cannot be ASL though it falls under the same category as PSE and SEE as signing in English word order.

    But not surprisingly we have a poll result of over 75% of the participants saying that the female astronaut signs mostly in some form of English word order whether it's PSE, SE, or SEE and not strictly in ASL.

    Don admits to signing in PSE (or at least he acknowledged he signs heavily in signed English word order) and not strictly in ASL although as professor he "teaches" ASL. But he hasn't accepted the challenge to strictly sign in ASL in a video demonstration? 

    Right now it seems to me that most signers regularly use English word order in their signing as part of their visual language of communication rather than strictly in ASL. Perhaps those who took the survey poll might be confused as thinking their signing is in ASL but in reality uses more English word order (e.g. PSE, SE, SEE) than they care to admit and perhaps their signing actually fall under the category as either SE, SEE or even PSE? Perhaps like David or Don, for example?

    People seriously need to make up their minds instead of making things up along the way in the effort to tout ASL as the all encompassing signing umbrella by those who sign in SE, PSE or even SEE just so they can put a few more notches on their ASL bedpost and call those signing as "ASL." All of sudden it appears we're seeing these incestuous relationships happening among many culturally deaf people in their exhaustive efforts to label just about any signing, part and parcel, as "ASL."

    Here's a clue.

    Just don't call any English word order signing as "ASL" if you're adamant of calling them as "not a language." Just call it sign language instead. Now, when you sign ask yourself, "Am I really signing strictly in ASL or am I just fooling myself here calling it as ASL?"

    Folks, can you say, "discombobulated"?

    Wednesday, January 12, 2011

    Barb Digi and Professionalism

    Barb Digi publicly resigned from the DBC in a YouTube notification to viewers a few days ago after only a few years in the organization. Despite the numerous controversies regarding the organization she made a point about pursuing an area with greater professionalism in her video if you read the transcript at the end. I agree. Professionalism is key to maintaining and keeping one's own integrity. I've noticed that she has tried to keep Deaf politics out of the way and focus on exemplifying on the positive on how signing can help babies, deaf or hearing, to communicate more effectively with parents.



    The simplest approach is to show the positive side of signing (not necessarily "ASL" but signing in general) to parents of deaf and hard of hearing children and leave it at that. I produced a video showing an example of how a simple YouTube of my 1 year old hearing daughter signing at her 1st birthday celebration can carry more weight on delivering a simple message...communication can be understood between a one year old baby and adults.  That simple video message alone carries more weight than for highly visible members connected to an organization to go on a rampage, attacking people and other organizations because their views do not agree with that of DBC.  Once you employ yourself in an organization, what you do or say reflects on the organization's standard of professionalism. Once you abuse that then that organization loses its integrity because of the strong association with an organization and presents a very negative image of that organization. Leaders of any organizations must have a goal in mind on ensuring absolute professionalism. Once you lose that professionalism then any message or goal in an organization would lost or damaged.

    Parents simply need to be informed and with that information they can make an informed decision. The parents still hold the trump card because they are the ones who make that crucial decision whether going for a cochlear implant or a hearing, using cued speech, SEE, ASL, SE, PSE, SimCom, or oral-auditory approaches. Even the decision to employ the help from John Tracy Clinic, AGBell or NAD. The key understanding here is that it is ultimately the parents' decision for their deaf or hh child on what they feel is best. The decision does not rest with the DBC. Not Gallaudet University. Not NAD. Not AGBell. Not John Tracy Clinic. They do not own babies with hearing loss. All they can do is provide the necessary information so parents can make an informed decision. Politics will simply turn parents off. That's what professionalism is all about. Informing parents and not let politics get in the way by harassing people for their decision or opinions on other mode of communication or educational approaches that people think are good.  By publicly going after people for having a different opinion or approach would push any message about signing for babies out of the window. I think Barb Digi understands that. So does Amy E. Cohen.

    And with that, I sincerely wish Barb Digi all the luck and successes in her professionalism goal and new opportunities in helping parents understand the value of signing for all babies. Politics is not the answer. A simple positive message is the answer. Step into that mud puddle of politics, then you risk tainting your own professionalism and an organization's  own standard.

    Good luck, Barb. I mean it.

    Sunday, January 09, 2011

    RELAX! This is diversity!

    I've always recognized the diversity within the deaf and hard of hearing community and that no matter what their mode of communication is no one is belittled for their choices. None. Whether it's preferring to sign in SEE, SE, PSE, MCE, Rochester Method, speaking and listening (oral-auditory), cued speech, or even ASL. It is also about people who prefer their hearing aids, cochlear implants or none at all. And with diversity it is also about recognizing people's varying experiences and skills that shape their opinions and understanding in life with their hearing loss.

    My experiences and skills do not invalidate other deaf and hard of hearing people's experiences and skill. But we do have opinions on a variety of issues and subjects. And we should simply respect people choices on how they wish to communicate as long as access to communication is there. Just as I provide captioning in all of my speaking videos with the goal of including captioning to all of my future signing videos or vlogs.

    Isn't diversity a wonderful thing?



    The quote "RELAX! This is diversity!" came from Bgmaron8. Check it out. And he's exactly right.

    Poll: Is this Astronaut signing in SEE, PSE or ASL?

    I suppose you remembered last year when a female astronaut became the first astronaut in space to sign back to Earth in a signed video message to the people of Earth? Review this video and tell me what you think is her mode of communication is like.  Watch the video of her signing and then take a poll at the bottom on what you think her mode of communication is when it comes to signing.



    If you're not sure on which mode of communication she may be using then click on one of the links below.

    What is SEE?

    What is PSE?

    What is ASL?

    What is SE, SimCom, and Total Communication?